Married Priests, Womenpriests, Gay Priests: Let’s All Stand Together

In ongoing debates, discussions and raging arguments over compulsory celibacy for priests, we usually overlook the simple, plain fact that there are already many thousands of married Catholic priests. The eastern rite churches within the Catholic church have always accepted a married clergy, and in recent years there has been a steady trickle of married clergy converting from other denominations, who have been ordained in the Catholic Church and are now ministering openly and officially in Catholic parishes, in many parts of the world. Most of us know this, even if we do not think about it consciously.

Eastern Rite Catholic Priests

We completely overlook, however, that by far the greatest number of married priests today are those who started out conventionally enough in the Western Church, but later left formal ministry within the institutional church. Many of these left in order to marry, others left and only later chose to marry. All, however, remain priests. In catholic theology, the principle is clear: “Once a priest, always a priest”.

Some of these continue to offer ministry of different kinds, although (obviously) outside of the institutional church and without its sanction. In this, they have clear parallels with the growing womenpriests movement, which recently ordained priests in Sarasota, and will ordain five more women as priests or deacons in Rochester on May 1st this year. There are parallels too, with a small handful of openly gay priests who have entered into civil marriages or civil unions with their partners. (The few that I know of are working in specialist ministries, independently of church funding or diocesan control). There are also heterosexual priests who have legally married without the sanction of the Church – especially in Africa.

I was interested this morning to stumble upon the writing of one such married priest, Fr Ray Grosswirth, at “Toward a Progressive Catholic Church”. What I like about Fr Gosswirth is his calm and balanced approach, characterized by a desire to find common ground between the progressive and conservative voices. Two of the New Year resolutions he posted on January 1 were:

3.)I will avoid those who try to entice me into theological arguments in cyberspace.
4.)I will continue to work behind the scenes for an opportunity for conservative and liberal Catholics to gather in an atmosphere of mutual respect, whereby diversity would be celebrated, as opposed to being attacked.

Typical of his approach is this brief report on a New York meeting between married priests outside the fold, and mainstream diocesan priests, looking for ways to work together. This is an admirable goal, and I wish them every success.

Dialogue Between Diocesan & Married Priests

Dear Blog Visitors:


If you read various Catholic blogs, it might appear that there is no constructive dialogue between traditionalists and reformers. This is indeed often the case. However, it is wonderful when a middle-of-the-road approach is taken and produces results.
One of my better experiences in recent years occurred on January 8, 2003. On that day, the executive board of CORPUS (national association for an inclusive priesthood) and the president of the NFPC (National Federation of Priest Councils) spent a day together in New York City. Highlights of our day included constructive talks on the role married priests could play in various dioceses around the country. This was inclusive of a very nice lunch in an Italian restaurant in Manhattan.
I have included a photo taken at the lunch mentioned in the preceding paragraph. From the left are Bob Silva (former president of the NFPC) and the former CORPUS executive board, including Bill Wisniewski, Russ Ditzel and Ray Grosswirth (yours truly).
I continue to pray for the success of the American Catholic Council, scheduled to take place in June of 2011 in Detroit. It will be an opportunity for conservative and progressive Catholics to come together in a spirit of friendship and dialogue. I look forward to attending and participating in the conversations.


Peace to all, Ray Grosswirth

(Cross-posted from “The Open Tabernacle“)

See also:

Celibacy in the year of the priest

The Underground Priesthood

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4 Responses to “Married Priests, Womenpriests, Gay Priests: Let’s All Stand Together”

  1. william Says:

    I thoroughly enjoy this blog and maybe some of my misunderstanding has to do with the fact that i am not catholic. But it just seems to me that people who identify as catholics are more interested in what the church (Rome) says and their traditions than what the bible says. I am not criticizing here i just don’t see why tradition or what some priest or bishop has to say is so important. Am i missing something?

    • Terence@queerchurch Says:

      A good question, William. The technically correct answer is that Scripture and tradition are both important: Scripture alone without any kind of guidance in interpretatiion is notoriously open to abuse. There is also a third source of revelation, entirley accepted by the theologians but usually overlooked, which is the ongoing revelation of the Holy Spirit, guiding us inreading “the signs of the times.” Strictly speaking, we should take all three into account. Being human, we tend to select those that best suit outr purpose, neglecting the others.

      Those who currently control the Church prefer to quote the magisterium, and at times are quite flagrant in disregarding Scripture when it clashes with the Magisterium. Some CAtholic laypeople are quite happy to go along with it, preferring to switch off their brains when they begin to deal with religious matters. Me, I am happy to accept the teaching authority of the church – but as a one-time teacher myself, I also believe in disagreeing (vigourously) with my teachers when I thnk they are wrong.

      I also reject out of hand the (supposed) legislative authority of the papacy and ecclesiastical structure, which as far as I can see is without foundation in either SCripture, or the practice of the early church. It was given to them by nobody except themselves – not usually a strong basis for authority.

  2. Francis Says:

    I think You give a wrong impression of the Eastern Catholic Churches in Your reference to them pictorially and textually. It is true that they have a married clergy, but you seem to imply that they also are open to women’s ordination and openly Gay married priests. I could be wrong, but i think that the Eastern Rites Churches are officially opposed to both ordination of women and Gay marries priests?

    Respectfully submitted in Christ

    • Terence Weldon Says:

      You’re absolutely correct in your understanding, Francis. It was certainly not my intention to suggest otherwise. I don’t know how you formed that impression – I thought that my meaning was clear, but perhaps my words could have been chosen more carefully.


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